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| Bankrobber Hive Bee |
 posted 01-21-2000 11:25 AM 
One time Bankrobber had a few to many and fell asleep, during this state of sleep he dreamnt of this reaction oh I'd say three times, all on very small scale via DR.Shulgin. During this limbo state of mind wich has absolutely nothing to do w/ the real world mag. stiring was enough. My question (I'm asking this question purely for educational purposes, not a damn thing illegal) in using a decent mag. stiring plate whats the upper limit for 1000rpm reaction w/ not-ketone ( I've personally wanted to theoretically dream 1 mole to 55g foil ratio w/ Hg inside reaction, just like MR. Pimp Bee), and last but not least could a 500$ General Duty OverHead Electric Stirrer handle the viscosity of the 1 mole to 55g reaction of LEGAL PRECURSOR to amalgamated aluminum w/Hg inside of reaction(or pre-amalgamated?)? Anybody whith theoretical input, your help would be appreciated.And remember folks I have commited no illegal activities while on the planet earth, nor should you ever consider doing anything illegal. ------------------ |
| Bankrobber Hive Bee |
posted 01-21-2000 02:25 PM
Osmium, Rhodium, Bright Star, anybody please reply, please. Thank You for your time. |
| ChemHack Hive Bee |
posted 01-21-2000 10:50 PM
My guess is that the upper limit is directly related to the effectiveness of the temperature control regime. |
| Osmium PimpBee |
posted 01-24-2000 06:17 AM
It all depends on what kind of Al you are using. Stirring foil is pretty much impossible, even with an overhead stirrer. Sheet Al reactions are easily stirred with an overhead stirrer motor. Especially at the one mole scale. This method was successfully used in multi-mole scale reactions by bees who wish to remain anonymous. |
| Bankrobber Hive Bee |
posted 01-31-2000 12:56 PM
Hey YOU PIMP BEE, YOU (OSMIUM) I just had a successful reaction last night using 1x4 inch al. strips that worked great, I processed 240g not ketone w/ just using occasional stirring(every fifteen min. for 1 min.) from a glass stir rod, no overhead stir bar, no mag. stirring, key here for me was to expose the foil to solution(bubbles emanating from foil is the way to be sure), I used 100 g. not-methylamine in 180 ml. dh2o and neutralized w/ NaOH to get aqueous solution, and started off w/ .3g of mercuric chloride, but ended up adding a little more here and there to speed up reaction( I took your advice on not realy worrying about how much is added, thank's Osmium, your just to pimp). Secret here to no eruptions,overheating,etc. is nice thich 1x4 al. strips (bends easy, but w/ some resistance, don't know exact thickness yet but will find out soon before final write-up of Bankrobber way of handling business). It took me 7 hrs. before I said that this is taking to long and refluxed(BINGO!) and I can say it was all worth it. In my write-up Osmium I will be sure to give you proper credit for this whole thing happenin' because your write-up far exceeds everyone elses in my personal opinion and it was a lot of your advice that I went on. Let me know MR. PIMP if there's ever a way that I can repay the favor, and consider it done. Osmium PIMP #1 |
| Bankrobber Hive Bee |
posted 01-31-2000 01:03 PM
CORRECTION- I USED .3 g mercuric chloride for every 40g not-ketone, this was for starters, than I added little here and ther to speed up the completion of the reaction, I think as well as Osmium has previously stated that you just can't overdo it w/ mercuric chloride as long as you stay within certain borders, and you don't just dump in like the whole bottle(add slowly though so you dont get volcanic eruption, personally I got nowhere near any kind of volcanic reaction when I added in extra, but I did do cautiously) in the reaction. Bankrobber making his getaway into the night! Thrill me, mf's! |
| Osmium PimpBee |
posted 02-01-2000 05:35 AM
What yield? |
| Bankrobber Hive Bee |
posted 02-02-2000 01:27 AM
yield clocked at 80%(oh I completely forgot to say that this was done w/ MeOH, no prob's) and I listened to what you reccomended on that other post, I always am attentive whenever your involved, and am sorry! BR |
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